Anti-Liberal Quote of the Day

Published on March 11, 2004 By couchman In Misc

"If they were merely stupid, then the laws of probability would have dictated that atleast some of their decisions would have served the country's intrest" ....Sen. Joseph McCarthy in reference to Gen. George Marshall

Comments

Wahkonta Anathema

on Mar 11, 2004

OOps. I thought I made that quote up about the present Republicans who support Bush in his Mexican, "take an American's job" policy. Sahrrry.

russellmz2

on Mar 11, 2004

mccarthy vs. marshall:

http://www.npg.si.edu/exh/marshall/marsh2.htm
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Few Americans in the twentieth century have left a greater legacy to world peace than George C. Marshall (1880-1959). As chief of staff of the United States Army during World War II, it fell to Marshall to raise, train, and equip an army of several million men. It was Marshall who selected the officer corps and it was Marshall who played a leading role in planning military operations on a global scale. In the end, it was Marshall whom British Prime Minister Winston Churchill hailed as "the true organizer of victory."

Yet history will associate Marshall foremost as the author of the Marshall Plan. The idea of extending billions of American dollars for European economic recovery was not his alone. He was only one of many Western leaders who realized the tragic consequences of doing nothing for those war-shattered countries in which basic living conditions were deplorable and still deteriorating two years after the end of the fighting. But Marshall, more than anyone else, led the way.

awards:
-Distinguished Service Medal with 1st Oak Leaf
-American Defense Service Medal with Foreign Cluster Service Clasp
-Silver Star
-American Campaign Medal
-Gold Medal expressing "Thanks of Congress"
-Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal
-Philippine Campaign Medal
-European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with two bronze service stars
-Mexican Border Service Medal
-World War I Victory Medal with four battle clasps
-World War II Victory Medal
-Army of Occupation of Germany Medal
-National Defense Service Medal
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this does not include an even longer list of foreign and civilian awards.

souce:
a demagogue in the worst sense of the word, Joe MCarthy played on people's fears to get what he wanted.

Joseph N. Welch, chief attorney for the Army, Welch stood up, faced the senator, and said:
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Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness. Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you no sense of decency?
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joe mccarthy was rated the "worst senator" in a poll of the press and died of acute alcoholism at the age of 48.

BulbousHead

on Mar 11, 2004

"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"

George W. Bush, 11 January 2000

Wahkonta Anathema

on Mar 11, 2004

"They is, they is." A Republican voter.

couchman

on Mar 12, 2004

heres a question with regards to McCarthy...was he right...funny how both declassied kgb documents..and the us intelligences own deciphering of the "verona" cables (which was only made public in july 11, 1985) listed as follows as paid soviet agents..(not sympathizers) Alger Hiss - at the State Department, Julius & Ethel Rosenberg - Atomic Spies, I.F. Stone (widely respected journalist), Harry Dexter White - Assistant Secretary at the Department of Treasury(later appointed to the International Monetary Fund by Truman), Lauchlin Carrie - Personal Assistant to the President Roosevelt and White House Liason to the State Department under both Truman and Roosevelt, Laurence Duggan - Head of the Latin American desk in the Department of State, Frank Coe - U.S. representative on the International Monetary Fund, Solomon Adler - senior Treasury Department offical, Klaus Fuchs - top atomic scientist, Duncan Lee - senior aide to the head of the OSS.

these are only a few of the ones uncovered by Sen. McCarthy, Department of Justice, HUAC, Military Intelligence, OSS/CIA

the real question you have to ask yourself...regardless of what you believe ..was he right!

Unfairman

on Mar 12, 2004

Alright, if you're resorting to quoting JOE MCCARTHY, I think you've got some serious problems other than the ingnorance you've so readily shown us.

Unfairman

on Mar 12, 2004

I mean, consider your sources people, please.

russellmz2

on Mar 12, 2004

here's a question in response to your question: was the number of innocent lives he ruined worth the number of spies he caught (that number being 0)? assuming the principle it is preferable to have 100 guilty people go free than one innocent sent to jail(or in the case i am making, ruined). if you had a choice, how many of innocent people would you trade to find one spy?

also:

Despite his repeated claims, McCarthy never did produce the name of any card-carrying communist, leading critics to claim that "Joe couldn't find a Communist in Red Square." The McCarthy witch hunts came to a close in 1954 when Utah's Republican Senator Arthur V. Watkins chaired a U.S. Senate Select Committee that investigated McCarthy and recommended he be censured for his behavior.

was there communist infiltration? yes. did some people accused turn out to be spies? yes. did mccarthy help america? no.

source:

This new evidence is forcing the revision of many of the prevailing myths about the internal communist threat to American democracy in the postwar era. None of it exculpates McCarthy. He remains a political bully who hurt a number of people. But his exaggerated and baseless charges also harmed the anti-communist cause. In a variant of Gresham's Law, his bad charges trivialized and weakened good ones. Genuine Soviet spies portrayed themselves as victimized by McCarthyism. They found sympathetic listeners, convinced that anyone accused of espionage or communism must be innocent because some innocent people were accused.

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McCarthy's wild charges did not help uncover Soviet spies. But there were spies, there was a legitimate security issue and there were very good reasons for suspecting that most of the spies were American communists. None of that excuses the excesses of McCarthyism, but it also puts the era of McCarthyism into context. The Soviet Union had mounted a major espionage offensive against the United States, using hundreds of American citizens as its weapons. And the Communist Party U.S.A. was organizationally complicit in espionage.

mccarthy was the boy who cried wolf, except it was america that paid the price for his irresponsible actions. accusing marshall of being a traitor for communism was like accusing colin powell as being an al queda sympathizer.

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