One Lone Conservative's Reality in a Sea of Liberal Delusion's
....and the idiots who march lockstep behind them!
Published on April 29, 2004 By couchman In Current Events
Recently, in a news story broke by The Christian Science Monitor reporter Rondi Adamson, Canada has decided to grant temporary refugee status on Army Privates Jeremy Hinzman (25) & Brandon Hughley (19) who fled to Canada after being informed that their units would be begining the process of deployment for action in ongoing operations in Iraq/Afghanistan. Out of 1.5 million Americans currently serving, to date only these two cowards decided to run for the hills....although they have become the darlings of the hyper-left here and the sizeable anti-Americanism in Canada. The two explain that they consider the current actions in Iraq to be illegal (gee did they miss the footnotes bout not needing a formal declaration of war with a said country if there is only a cease-fire agreement in place?) Both men have applied for asylum in Canada which by law can only be granted if said person can prove they'll be killed or persecuted in their homeland.....not prosecuted....and knowing Canadas fine legal and goverment system which is known for speedy judgements..lol...it can take up to five years for a decision to be made...all the while the two would be eligable for financial support from the Canadian goverment pending the outcome.

Since the two cowards, traitors, useless sacks of..well you know...(your choice) fled to Canada....with Hizman living in Toronto and Hughley in St. Catherines have made the anti-american, anti-war circuit in are so 'friendly' neighbor to the north eventually being part of several CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corp)shows ....the CBC is notoriously known for its biased 'objectivity' regarding reporting on the United States, has nearly been orgasmic with glee over the problems in Iraq...to which they aired promos during the said shows stating, "For more than 200 years, Americans have been escaping war and strife in the US by heading North," & "They came during the War of Independence, they came during the Civil War, the Vietnam War, ...and now there's that other war in Iraq. It's only a trickle, but it's starting to happen again."......A trickle? So 2 individuals are now considered a trickle?
In effect the two deserters have had kid gloves and almost unserious questions from the media they allow to interview them...

As per usual of the Useful Idiots crowd, Susan Sarandon (Internationally known military analyst and geo-political know it all...lol) has a personal letter of support on Hizman's web site (opps...did i forget to inform you that both deserters have web sites up and running for donations and letter writing campaigns..not to mention high priced PR firms) stating that "In times of war there have always been soldiers who have drawn the line, and have refused to follow orders they feel in their hearts to be immoral." Well golly! aint that called a conscientious objector? Not exactly the definition of a deserter...or deserters as is the case! On Hughey's site..he promises us all good karma if we contact our representatives here and in Canada on his behalf!

Some of the extreme news reports from various 'legitimate' papers/networks in the Great White North have said the two had "escaped" from the US after being "lured" into military service. Do I laugh now or wait a few seconds? They have even been compared to the slaves traveling via the underground railroad? Lord knows the US still has a draft...opps sorry we have an all-Volunteer force ...go figure.....as to the underground railroad comparison..lol...lets see...voluntary enlistment compared to people who were bought and sold? Yeah that makes sense...lol

Both are being represented, free of charge, by Jeffry House, a former American draft dodger who fled to Canada with between 30,000 - 60,000 others during Vietnam. Their excuses are as lame as their backbone....Hinzman joined up in Jan. 01 and .."was amazed that he was being trained to kill" (Wow...to think one might be trained to kill in the military...when everyone knows they train in needle point!) As for Hughey, he joined up after 9/11 and knew full well the nation and military were on a war footing....but maybe he was just naive. To post a line from Hughey's site, "Picture being 1,500 miles from everything and everyone you know." Now for a bit of paraphrasing from Rondi Adamson....Picture being 7,000 miles from everything and everyone you know, in unthinkable conditions, under fire, doing the duty you signed on for, while former comrades who ran away from duty update their websites in Canada!

In the end...much has been made of the fact that many currently serving with Honor in our military signed up as a way to obtain money for college did not run as these two did...but instead agreed to do the job asked of them when they enlisted in the first place instead of heading for the hills as Hinzman and Hughey did....one final point...Staff Sgt. Camilo Mejia turned himself in to US military authorities for refusing to be deployed again to Iraq...he will undoubtably be tried before a court martial for his stance but at least he had the will of his convictions to stand and face the music as it were ....not something the two in Canada did let alone even ponder and for that main reason..I have some respect for Mejia while there will never be any respect but only disgust for Hughey and Hinzman.

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on Apr 30, 2004
what if the soldier knows it's not worth dying for? If they know the reasons for war were all lies? Then what?


In other words, they could sign up for the benefits and leave when they're asked to do their job. I guess contracts aren't legally binding and people could break them on a whim without expecting any consequences. At least that's how it should be, eh?

I sympathize with the guys who joined the guard to receive an education. They're the disadvantaged. And I would bet that each one who signed up asked, in jest or not, what the odds were that they'd ever be called to serve in a hellfire battlezone with their limited training.


That sure excuses them from fulfilling their duty. Why doesn't the military simply say: "You're not obligated to do anything, but we'll provide you with everything that we provide those who actually do their job." Maybe I'm a genius, but I think that if I were to join the military, the possibility of going to war would affect my decision.

Actually, I have a thread in the Mouse House about David Hackworth, and he's got lots to say about the National Guard combat (un)readiness. Half of them are unfit for duty and many have been shipped to Iraq despite evidence of serious medical ailments.


If they have serious medical ailments, then I might accept their cowardice. Otherwise, what does this have to do with anything?
on Apr 30, 2004
a heart defect is cowardice? I'm sorry but I won't respond to such obvious hate.
on Apr 30, 2004
Where does it say that those two men had heart defects? Also, if they have heart defects, then what the Hell are they doing in the military? What's next? Blind people joining the Air Force?
on Apr 30, 2004
a heart defect is cowardice?


If it's that bad, then he wouldn't have been allowed to join the military in the first place. theye have physicals, you know before you join, to make sure that you're 'fit for duty'. I know guys and girls who have had trivial medical ailments and who have been put on a 'profile' and not allowed to deploy. If it's something that came about after he had already joined...well, people get medically discharged every day.

It really bothers me that people are finding all kinds of excuses to not fulfil their obligation...and obligation that they created themselves when they, under no duress and of their own free will, joined the military.
on Apr 30, 2004
oh my goodness super thanks a lot. You just made my point perfectly. Hack's too. "if they have heart defects, then what the Hell are they doing in the military?"....that's what Hack wants to know. To be fair let's say that they were healthy when they joined up and then they got out of shape during their time in the reserves. The fact is that they should never have been sent when they're not combat ready. Tons of them are fat, overweight, and could never hump 10 miles in back country. But they were sent anyways because the US needed every swinging dick in the field.
on Apr 30, 2004
Mikimouse, you're trying to invent possible rationalizations that COULD apply to some HYPOTHETICAL individuals. However, the story mentions that these two deserters are 25 and 19 years old, and that they are Army Privates, not Reservists.
IF they had heart defects, then they should have requested a physical to prove it and then received medical discharge. Or, their physical exam at the time of enlistment would have disqualified them from active duty.
IF they were fat and lazy, then they were in dereliction of their duty as active service members to keep in decent fighting shape.

The facts at hand, however, are that two healthy young males joined the army, knowing full well (indeed, having it spelled out to them) that one of its functions is to fight and kill enemy armies as necessary; they took an oath and signed a contract stating that they would obey the commands and perform all the duties given to them; they graduated from Basic Training (which guarantees that they are both physically fit and mentally trained) into Active Duty; and then they ran away, forsook their posts, abandoned their obligations, deserted their comrades, and fled in the face of perceived danger.
on Apr 30, 2004
Excuse me but I am a Canadian. Please put down the rifles and I will drop my snowballs. Listen yanks I am on your side and feel a derserter much be considered a coward. Did these soldiers who volunteered for the army forget to read the job description of what a soldier's duties are? Did they not realize that soldiers are paod to fight and die so that others can live in freedom? Apparently so. I would like to say that the overwhelming majority of Canadians believe in the war in Iraq. However a recent poll of Canadians, 87% oppose the war.

Please do not think all Canadians are brainwashed by the Liberal Government of Canada, which spews hatred towards everything American but loves American money over our monoply money. One day Canada will be governed by an American president and I only hope hos last name is BUSH!
on Apr 30, 2004
You mean the whole family would rather be cowards than defend freedom? Shame, shame, shame, on you all!
on Apr 30, 2004
on Apr 30, 2004

You mean the whole family would rather be cowards than defend freedom? Shame, shame, shame, on you all!

I take it that was in reference to WiseFawn's comment.  Thank you for saying what I did not.

BiblePreacher, I'm not against Canadians.  I'm against piece-of-shit-loser-cowards running away from their responsibilities.

 

 

on Apr 30, 2004
In thinking bout these two deserters....I remembered a quote I posted while back in one of my weekly quotes......

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself!" .......John Stewart Mill

on Apr 30, 2004
Please do not think all Canadians are brainwashed by the Liberal Government of Canada, which spews hatred towards everything American but loves American money over our monoply money. One day Canada will be governed by an American president and I only hope hos last name is BUSH!


Well....we have been thinking of adding another state to our country.....and Canadas greatest contribution to North America is its women, beer, and outstanding hockey players..lol...that should be reason enough to add Canada to the Union......
on Apr 30, 2004
You've drinking, right?
on May 01, 2004
Reply By: fanfan tulipan


Vanunu Mordechai says we don't need a Jewish state.


And just what the F*CK does this have to do with the deserter article......last i checked the article was about Canada providing asylum to 2 US Army deserters...not the pros/cons of Israels nuclear arms.......aside from everyone esle...you have not only gone out in left field fanfan, you left the track
on May 01, 2004

fanfan tulipan

WTF?!?

Are you smoking crack?  Because it seems that you have lost the plot.

 

I trolled you, and you thoroughly deserved it.  If you want to spout off like that, write your own article; don't hijack someone elses.

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