One Lone Conservative's Reality in a Sea of Liberal Delusion's
....and the idiots who march lockstep behind them!
Published on April 29, 2004 By couchman In Current Events
Recently, in a news story broke by The Christian Science Monitor reporter Rondi Adamson, Canada has decided to grant temporary refugee status on Army Privates Jeremy Hinzman (25) & Brandon Hughley (19) who fled to Canada after being informed that their units would be begining the process of deployment for action in ongoing operations in Iraq/Afghanistan. Out of 1.5 million Americans currently serving, to date only these two cowards decided to run for the hills....although they have become the darlings of the hyper-left here and the sizeable anti-Americanism in Canada. The two explain that they consider the current actions in Iraq to be illegal (gee did they miss the footnotes bout not needing a formal declaration of war with a said country if there is only a cease-fire agreement in place?) Both men have applied for asylum in Canada which by law can only be granted if said person can prove they'll be killed or persecuted in their homeland.....not prosecuted....and knowing Canadas fine legal and goverment system which is known for speedy judgements..lol...it can take up to five years for a decision to be made...all the while the two would be eligable for financial support from the Canadian goverment pending the outcome.

Since the two cowards, traitors, useless sacks of..well you know...(your choice) fled to Canada....with Hizman living in Toronto and Hughley in St. Catherines have made the anti-american, anti-war circuit in are so 'friendly' neighbor to the north eventually being part of several CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corp)shows ....the CBC is notoriously known for its biased 'objectivity' regarding reporting on the United States, has nearly been orgasmic with glee over the problems in Iraq...to which they aired promos during the said shows stating, "For more than 200 years, Americans have been escaping war and strife in the US by heading North," & "They came during the War of Independence, they came during the Civil War, the Vietnam War, ...and now there's that other war in Iraq. It's only a trickle, but it's starting to happen again."......A trickle? So 2 individuals are now considered a trickle?
In effect the two deserters have had kid gloves and almost unserious questions from the media they allow to interview them...

As per usual of the Useful Idiots crowd, Susan Sarandon (Internationally known military analyst and geo-political know it all...lol) has a personal letter of support on Hizman's web site (opps...did i forget to inform you that both deserters have web sites up and running for donations and letter writing campaigns..not to mention high priced PR firms) stating that "In times of war there have always been soldiers who have drawn the line, and have refused to follow orders they feel in their hearts to be immoral." Well golly! aint that called a conscientious objector? Not exactly the definition of a deserter...or deserters as is the case! On Hughey's site..he promises us all good karma if we contact our representatives here and in Canada on his behalf!

Some of the extreme news reports from various 'legitimate' papers/networks in the Great White North have said the two had "escaped" from the US after being "lured" into military service. Do I laugh now or wait a few seconds? They have even been compared to the slaves traveling via the underground railroad? Lord knows the US still has a draft...opps sorry we have an all-Volunteer force ...go figure.....as to the underground railroad comparison..lol...lets see...voluntary enlistment compared to people who were bought and sold? Yeah that makes sense...lol

Both are being represented, free of charge, by Jeffry House, a former American draft dodger who fled to Canada with between 30,000 - 60,000 others during Vietnam. Their excuses are as lame as their backbone....Hinzman joined up in Jan. 01 and .."was amazed that he was being trained to kill" (Wow...to think one might be trained to kill in the military...when everyone knows they train in needle point!) As for Hughey, he joined up after 9/11 and knew full well the nation and military were on a war footing....but maybe he was just naive. To post a line from Hughey's site, "Picture being 1,500 miles from everything and everyone you know." Now for a bit of paraphrasing from Rondi Adamson....Picture being 7,000 miles from everything and everyone you know, in unthinkable conditions, under fire, doing the duty you signed on for, while former comrades who ran away from duty update their websites in Canada!

In the end...much has been made of the fact that many currently serving with Honor in our military signed up as a way to obtain money for college did not run as these two did...but instead agreed to do the job asked of them when they enlisted in the first place instead of heading for the hills as Hinzman and Hughey did....one final point...Staff Sgt. Camilo Mejia turned himself in to US military authorities for refusing to be deployed again to Iraq...he will undoubtably be tried before a court martial for his stance but at least he had the will of his convictions to stand and face the music as it were ....not something the two in Canada did let alone even ponder and for that main reason..I have some respect for Mejia while there will never be any respect but only disgust for Hughey and Hinzman.

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on May 01, 2004
"You mean the whole family would rather be cowards than defend freedom? Shame, shame, shame, on you all!
I take it that was in reference to WiseFawn's comment. Thank you for saying what I did not."

Cowards? We all have our own ideas on what cowards are. It must be wonderful to sit on your judge thrones, eh? My oldest brother was killed when he was 28, and there none that would've met him, that would've called him a coward. My other brother has recently survived cancer and none would call him a coward either.

We will all have to wait a bit for this to come out in the wash, won't we? I think the world needs a bit more compassion. It is very interesting though, to see it all happening again.

on May 01, 2004

It must be wonderful to sit on your judge thrones, eh?


 


I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.

on May 01, 2004
In Wisefawn's happy feel good utopia, no one's a coward. Not even people who desert their units and flee to a foreign country.
on May 01, 2004
We will all have to wait a bit for this to come out in the wash, won't we? I think the world needs a bit more compassion. It is very interesting though, to see it all happening again.


I think the world needs less cowards and more reliable people who do what they say they will and not be so stupid as to think that they won't have to partake in a war if they join the military. Is ignorance ever an excuse?
on May 02, 2004
Cowards? We all have our own ideas on what cowards are. It must be wonderful to sit on your judge thrones, eh? My oldest brother was killed when he was 28, and there none that would've met him, that would've called him a coward. My other brother has recently survived cancer and none would call him a coward either.


Wise...first off my sympathies about your brother and congrads bout your surviving one....but with regards to the 2 cowards punking out in Canada....both had free will...no one forced them to join the military.....and onced they enlisted....they were obligated to serve their time...both were combat infantry...not support...so they knew full well that they were being trained for a combat role...and to paraphrase the french police chief in Casablanca......"I'm shocked..shocked...that I joined the military only to be informed that I may be deployed for military combat........." Frankly their assets should be seized and frozen....and they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law ...and then some....that is if Canada ever decides to return them....maybe they need a good old fashioned ass whopping in a public square......then they could cry that they were really in fear for their lives in America.....
on May 02, 2004

In Wisefawn's world, there are no cowards, no personal responsibility. All things are the fault of a faceless "guvment".

If deserting your post in the armed forces and fleeing to Canada isn't cowardice I don't know what is. Now, someone else will have to take that person's place. The cowards who fled to Canada have put someone else's life on the line instead of their own.

 

on Sep 17, 2004
GREAT ANALYSIS OF THE TWO COWARDLY HUMANS (I WONT CALL THEM AMERICANS) AND OUR TURNCOAT NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH
on Sep 17, 2004
hmm, strange to see some of these old articles resurfacing.
on Sep 17, 2004
GREAT ANALYSIS OF THE TWO COWARDLY HUMANS (I WONT CALL THEM AMERICANS) AND OUR TURNCOAT NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH


Calling them humans is streatching it abit.....although gutless, moral cowards does some justice
on Sep 17, 2004
hmm, strange to see some of these old articles resurfacing.


Hmmmmm....must be that "evil" right-wing conspiracy we all heard bout but never shown proof of......maybe it was the "source from CBS's fuckup in reporting.....or maybe it was the shadow....cause the Shadow knows!
on Sep 17, 2004
heh . . . I have a neighbor whose unit is deployed to Iraq and he's sitting in his garage in shorts and a t-shirt smoking a cigarette.

My husband is deployed even though the last thing he wanted to do is leave me and our boys for a year, but my lame ass neighbor has an injury that keeps him from deploying . . . his pinky toe and the one next to it on one of his feet is numb.

He is able to accept free health care for his family, his regular Army pay plus $250/mo for food and over $400/mo for cost of living allowance, and live in a free house, and buy tax free items at the PX . . . he is able to move furniture around and play basketball everyday and mow his yard and trim his hedges (but heck if he'll take 5 minutes to mow for any of us whose husbands are gone). He's just too injured to deploy. THAT'S A COWARD.

AND . . . AND . . . right after my husband left when I was sad and hurting, this sack o' shit came to my house and asked me if I would watch his kids (ages 1, 4, & 7) overnight so he and his wife could go clubbing.

Arrrggh!!!!!!!!!

*meh, sorry couchman for being a bit off-topic . . . felt good to rant, though*
on Sep 17, 2004
*meh, sorry couchman for being a bit off-topic . . . felt good to rant, though*


My lady you have no need to appologise to me or anyone else.....I am honored by your husbands service to our country and yet sad that he was required to leave you for deployment....

As to your neighbor, sounds like he needs a good asskicking....while I may understand the reason in some way why he cant deploy to a combat zone....I see no reason he cant serve in a support capacity either at home or in the rear areas in Iraq...this is another example of taking this country for granted....

May your husband return to you safe as the day he left you.....
on Nov 09, 2004
Thing about laws is that they tend to apply more or less the same in all cases. So if the Canadian Court gets a deserting American who is unwilling to deploy to Iraq or wherever he gets the same treatment as if we where to recieve...I don't know - a Chinese soldier that refused to mow down protestors in Hong Kong. There both deserters from their countries military and both face stiff penalties should there state get them back. In both cases I am sure that their state is itching to make an example of them. Now I concede that the two cases are not comparable - but thats what courts are for - to decide when something is or is not comparable. So these guys will get their day in court and they will get their appeal like everyone else but unless they got some kind of really good reason up their sleeves I doubt we will recognize their argument. It might take a heck of a while due to how badly clogged up our immigration courts are but there will eventually come a time when they will most likely haev to face the music.
on Nov 09, 2004
There both deserters from their countries military and both face stiff penalties should there state get them back.


Actually, your correct...one soldier, the chinese, is a forced conscript...the other..or others as the case is are members of a volunteer military...no one held a gun to their head to join.....the two deserters have no basis for a defense...cowardice is not defendable...especially after statements were made by the two that they joined the military but never considered that they'd be trained to kill! Who the hell are they to play naive...the simple fact is I had more respect for the soldier I listed who refused to be deployed but stayed to face the music as it were under a court martial....where as these two candy-asses fled to canada, cried wolf...and continue to live quite well while their former comrades continue to operate in a war zone....

This is the same mentality that greeted the draft dodgers of the vietnam era who fled instead of facing the music...running instead of standing up for ones convictions....as i said...both should have all assets seized in the states and their citizenship revoked...
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